Information for Family Members of Injured Soldiers in PTRP at Fort Sill
UPDATED 3/6/06
This is an Open Letter to all of you who have family members in the PTRP at Fort Sill:
I am Private Sincere’s mother. He is one of the injured privates at the Fort Sill PTRP. I wanted to provide others who are family members of PTRP soldiers at Fort Sill with information I have gathered about what to do if you are concerned for your son/husband/brother…
If I can help you in any way, or if you would like your family member's story posted without mentioning his name, please email me at ptrosss (“at” symbol) gmail.com (sorry, have to write it out to prevent spam robots from getting it).
If you’re afraid, do something anyway. At least when you finally fall asleep in the wee hours of the morning, you will know that you are doing something, however small, to help your family member. I speak from experience. When I started to lose heart, I remembered that ALL of our sons/brothers/husbands had been forced to perform work that may have impacted their injuries (scraping floors, moving heavy furniture, etc.). ALL of our sons/brothers/husbands had inadequate medical supervision. Most, if not all of our sons/brothers/husbands had experienced intimidation/threats, etc., and had been called worthless, useless, fill in the blanks with various cursewords because they were injured. At least one of our sons/brothers/husbands had been the victim of assault. This is all unacceptable and illegal, even in the Army, even in a Boot Camp situation.
Remember that this is not even a Boot Camp scenario; this is a supposed rehabilitative environment. And certainly, if your son/brother/husband has been assaulted for any reason, you should already be doing something! Remember that you are not alone. Discuss this situation openly with family and friends. You have nothing to be ashamed of, nothing to hide. The more attention this situation gets, the more likely positive change will occur. (NOTE 3/6/06: This in fact is happening -- enough attention was drawn to the situation that it could not be ignored or dismissed -- PD)Now let’s get into some of the “something you can do”:
I have filed a complaint with my congressman’s office, and written to several others. Eventually, I was contacted by a congressional caseworker, and she is reviewing my son’s individual situation. That’s not enough, in my opinion, based on what I know to be true of the situation at Fort Sill. But it’s a start, and if all of us with concerns (and we ALL should have concerns) about our family member write to our congressional representatives (and keep writing if you don’t get a response), then it will become obvious that there’s a problem. (NOTE 3/6/06: I don't know how many of you did this, but I do know that it helped in my son's medical situation. I will add that this was done after other methods failed.--PD)
--If you decide to write to your congressional representative, and you don’t know who that is, find out here:
United States House of Representatives
Document as much as you can about your family member and the circumstances of the others in PTRP. Explain to them that your son can’t fill out a form, and detail as much much as you can. Be clear. If you don’t hear from them within a few days, follow up that communication with another one. Your congressional representative has caseworkers whose sole job is to investigate.
Official Channels – What I Have Done:
My particular concerns started out in August of 2005, after my son couldn’t get his combat boots laced over his feet and was in extreme pain. I wrote to the training liaison officer at Fort Sill. I was contacted in return, and while my son endured some verbal harassment for my intervention, it at least got him some ice and ibuprofen. X-rays were negative, but his condition persisted. A bone scan was scheduled, but my son was informed that if he went that day, he would automatically fail and be recycled (repeating Boot Camp). Another bone scan was scheduled, and that time the Drill Sergeants didn’t even bother to inform him of it (in Boot Camp, the Drill Sgts are notified, and they notify your family member of their appointments).
My son received temporary profiles that prohibited running, and was ordered to take an alternate walking event for the final PT test, instead of running. This was in November. All other components of the test were performed and passed, as was the alternative event. He went from his two mile walking test to the medical center where a bone scan was performed. He was informed that he had passed and would graduate, which he did.
Then, as I have documented on my blog here (See Abuse is Rampant at Fort Sill, he was “ungraduated” and the bureaucratic nightmare began. That was the least of the problems, as it turns out, with his stay in the Fort Sill PTRP.
It may be hard to think about, but document EVERYTHING from your family member's conversations. Get names, dates, times, places, etc. Remember that your son/husband/brother's oral record may be all you have to go on and give out, since they aren’t allowed to make statements to the press, etc., and you are their only hope for help at this time.
(NOTE 3/6/06: It has been pointed out to me that CO Captain Nuels is currently willing to discuss their family member's situation 580-442-4771. This should be your first stop to ask for assistance as long as you have no reason to think otherwise. -- PD)
Due to my son having officially graduated, when he was “ungraduated”and his medical care in question, I contacted the IG’s office (Inspector General) at Fort Sill. ANYONE can contact the IG. If you haven’t done so, I recommend you do it NOW.
Here is their contact information:
email: atzri@sill.army.mil
Phone: (580)442-3224
(NOTE: This step was vital to the changes that occurred in the Fort Sill PTRP--PD) You will be told that you are a 3rd party, and thus not necessarily entitled to know what happens, but it’s definitely worth the effort. I was contacted the first time I wrote to them, and have recently again contacted that office to update them on the situation of the entire PTRP. (UPDATE) The IG's office welcomes your input if you are a PTRP family member or a PTRP soldier.
Be prepared for a lot of buck passing, regardless of whom you write. You’re going to be discouraged, hear a lot of double talk, and encounter a lot of red tape. It will be suggested that you don’t understand the situation, that you aren’t getting the whole story, that because a detail of a story has changed with the passing of time, it means your entire complaint is invalid. Endure this and persevere. The fact is that you can’t get on your white horse and rescue your family member. If it could be done, I would already have a white horse saddled in the backyard. Heck, I would already have ridden out and done the rescue.
Contact the Public Affairs Office at Fort Sill.
580-442-2521
email: frazierl@sill.army.mil
Someone steered me in this direction when I erred about whom to contact. Tell them what your family member has been through, and what the other injured soldiers have been through as well as far as you know. If as one parent I heard from stated, her son feared for his life at one point, you should say that. TELL THE TRUTH. In theory, your complaint should reach the actual base commander. I’m still waiting to see if this actually happens, but don’t let that stop you from writing as well.
(NOTE: While I was contacted by the IG's office, no one else in the chain of command bothered to contact me. The IG's office was the most responsive -- PD). If the situation remains unaddressed, the next step up is at the Combined Arms Center at Ft. Leavenworth, KS in the person of Lt Gen Petraeus. If that fails, then you go up to Gen. Wallace, who is the TRADOC commander and Lt Gen Petraeus’ boss. I’m waiting. My patience is thin, but I’m waiting. (NOTE 3/6/06: There was some significant positive involvement at a TRADOC command level -- I doubt he'd appreciate being named here -- PD)
Don’t expect ANYONE to be glad to hear from you. If someone is glad to hear from you, that person is likely going to try to doubletalk you out of pursuing the issues.
This is obviously an ongoing process. I will add to this document as I learn more. If only one or two of us follow up on this, we can be ignored and our sons can be silenced. If we -- as the families of these fine young men who volunteered to serve their country and are now being treated like trash – stand together in our resolve to see this situation remedied, it’s possible that not only our family members will be safer, but also those to follow in the future.
IF YOU BELIEVE YOUR FAMILY MEMBER HAS A LEGITIMATE COMPLAINT OR ISSUE THAT IS NOT BEING ADDRESSED: Please don’t give up, and please don’t put it off. Write today. Make phone calls. Think of anyone you know who might help these injured soldiers who are members of your family and mine, and contact them as well as those I’ve suggested above.
Return to We Are All Volunteers in This Army
This is an Open Letter to all of you who have family members in the PTRP at Fort Sill:
I am Private Sincere’s mother. He is one of the injured privates at the Fort Sill PTRP. I wanted to provide others who are family members of PTRP soldiers at Fort Sill with information I have gathered about what to do if you are concerned for your son/husband/brother…
If I can help you in any way, or if you would like your family member's story posted without mentioning his name, please email me at ptrosss (“at” symbol) gmail.com (sorry, have to write it out to prevent spam robots from getting it).
If you’re afraid, do something anyway. At least when you finally fall asleep in the wee hours of the morning, you will know that you are doing something, however small, to help your family member. I speak from experience. When I started to lose heart, I remembered that ALL of our sons/brothers/husbands had been forced to perform work that may have impacted their injuries (scraping floors, moving heavy furniture, etc.). ALL of our sons/brothers/husbands had inadequate medical supervision. Most, if not all of our sons/brothers/husbands had experienced intimidation/threats, etc., and had been called worthless, useless, fill in the blanks with various cursewords because they were injured. At least one of our sons/brothers/husbands had been the victim of assault. This is all unacceptable and illegal, even in the Army, even in a Boot Camp situation.
Remember that this is not even a Boot Camp scenario; this is a supposed rehabilitative environment. And certainly, if your son/brother/husband has been assaulted for any reason, you should already be doing something! Remember that you are not alone. Discuss this situation openly with family and friends. You have nothing to be ashamed of, nothing to hide. The more attention this situation gets, the more likely positive change will occur. (NOTE 3/6/06: This in fact is happening -- enough attention was drawn to the situation that it could not be ignored or dismissed -- PD)Now let’s get into some of the “something you can do”:
I have filed a complaint with my congressman’s office, and written to several others. Eventually, I was contacted by a congressional caseworker, and she is reviewing my son’s individual situation. That’s not enough, in my opinion, based on what I know to be true of the situation at Fort Sill. But it’s a start, and if all of us with concerns (and we ALL should have concerns) about our family member write to our congressional representatives (and keep writing if you don’t get a response), then it will become obvious that there’s a problem. (NOTE 3/6/06: I don't know how many of you did this, but I do know that it helped in my son's medical situation. I will add that this was done after other methods failed.--PD)
--If you decide to write to your congressional representative, and you don’t know who that is, find out here:
United States House of Representatives
Document as much as you can about your family member and the circumstances of the others in PTRP. Explain to them that your son can’t fill out a form, and detail as much much as you can. Be clear. If you don’t hear from them within a few days, follow up that communication with another one. Your congressional representative has caseworkers whose sole job is to investigate.
Official Channels – What I Have Done:
My particular concerns started out in August of 2005, after my son couldn’t get his combat boots laced over his feet and was in extreme pain. I wrote to the training liaison officer at Fort Sill. I was contacted in return, and while my son endured some verbal harassment for my intervention, it at least got him some ice and ibuprofen. X-rays were negative, but his condition persisted. A bone scan was scheduled, but my son was informed that if he went that day, he would automatically fail and be recycled (repeating Boot Camp). Another bone scan was scheduled, and that time the Drill Sergeants didn’t even bother to inform him of it (in Boot Camp, the Drill Sgts are notified, and they notify your family member of their appointments).
My son received temporary profiles that prohibited running, and was ordered to take an alternate walking event for the final PT test, instead of running. This was in November. All other components of the test were performed and passed, as was the alternative event. He went from his two mile walking test to the medical center where a bone scan was performed. He was informed that he had passed and would graduate, which he did.
Then, as I have documented on my blog here (See Abuse is Rampant at Fort Sill, he was “ungraduated” and the bureaucratic nightmare began. That was the least of the problems, as it turns out, with his stay in the Fort Sill PTRP.
It may be hard to think about, but document EVERYTHING from your family member's conversations. Get names, dates, times, places, etc. Remember that your son/husband/brother's oral record may be all you have to go on and give out, since they aren’t allowed to make statements to the press, etc., and you are their only hope for help at this time.
(NOTE 3/6/06: It has been pointed out to me that CO Captain Nuels is currently willing to discuss their family member's situation 580-442-4771. This should be your first stop to ask for assistance as long as you have no reason to think otherwise. -- PD)
Due to my son having officially graduated, when he was “ungraduated”and his medical care in question, I contacted the IG’s office (Inspector General) at Fort Sill. ANYONE can contact the IG. If you haven’t done so, I recommend you do it NOW.
Here is their contact information:
email: atzri@sill.army.mil
Phone: (580)442-3224
(NOTE: This step was vital to the changes that occurred in the Fort Sill PTRP--PD) You will be told that you are a 3rd party, and thus not necessarily entitled to know what happens, but it’s definitely worth the effort. I was contacted the first time I wrote to them, and have recently again contacted that office to update them on the situation of the entire PTRP. (UPDATE) The IG's office welcomes your input if you are a PTRP family member or a PTRP soldier.
Be prepared for a lot of buck passing, regardless of whom you write. You’re going to be discouraged, hear a lot of double talk, and encounter a lot of red tape. It will be suggested that you don’t understand the situation, that you aren’t getting the whole story, that because a detail of a story has changed with the passing of time, it means your entire complaint is invalid. Endure this and persevere. The fact is that you can’t get on your white horse and rescue your family member. If it could be done, I would already have a white horse saddled in the backyard. Heck, I would already have ridden out and done the rescue.
Contact the Public Affairs Office at Fort Sill.
580-442-2521
email: frazierl@sill.army.mil
Someone steered me in this direction when I erred about whom to contact. Tell them what your family member has been through, and what the other injured soldiers have been through as well as far as you know. If as one parent I heard from stated, her son feared for his life at one point, you should say that. TELL THE TRUTH. In theory, your complaint should reach the actual base commander. I’m still waiting to see if this actually happens, but don’t let that stop you from writing as well.
(NOTE: While I was contacted by the IG's office, no one else in the chain of command bothered to contact me. The IG's office was the most responsive -- PD). If the situation remains unaddressed, the next step up is at the Combined Arms Center at Ft. Leavenworth, KS in the person of Lt Gen Petraeus. If that fails, then you go up to Gen. Wallace, who is the TRADOC commander and Lt Gen Petraeus’ boss. I’m waiting. My patience is thin, but I’m waiting. (NOTE 3/6/06: There was some significant positive involvement at a TRADOC command level -- I doubt he'd appreciate being named here -- PD)
Don’t expect ANYONE to be glad to hear from you. If someone is glad to hear from you, that person is likely going to try to doubletalk you out of pursuing the issues.
This is obviously an ongoing process. I will add to this document as I learn more. If only one or two of us follow up on this, we can be ignored and our sons can be silenced. If we -- as the families of these fine young men who volunteered to serve their country and are now being treated like trash – stand together in our resolve to see this situation remedied, it’s possible that not only our family members will be safer, but also those to follow in the future.
IF YOU BELIEVE YOUR FAMILY MEMBER HAS A LEGITIMATE COMPLAINT OR ISSUE THAT IS NOT BEING ADDRESSED: Please don’t give up, and please don’t put it off. Write today. Make phone calls. Think of anyone you know who might help these injured soldiers who are members of your family and mine, and contact them as well as those I’ve suggested above.
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